March 13, 2024
Closing in on Hunter Hotel Conference
We’ll be at Hunter Hotel Investment Conference March 19-21. Will you? Today, we’re talking to Lee Hunter and Teague Hunter about why YOU need to be there with us. Here’s two reason: Anthony Capuano, Marriott’s CEO and Ed Bastien, Delta’s CEO. And a bonus reason, celebrating industry icon Bob Hunter. Plus I’ll be hosting an amazing brand/owners panel.
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I don't know if it's me, but Anthony,
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you've never looked better.
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Why, thank you, Glenn.
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I'm Anthony.
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Welcome to No Vacancy Lives.
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That's my friend Glenn.
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You're watching the number
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one show in hospitality.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to No Vacancy Live.
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All right.
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To be fair,
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we recorded this show an hour
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before we were running it.
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I'm not even sure why we did that.
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I'm Glenn Hausman.
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That is Dr. Producer Suzanne
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Bagnera covering for Anthony,
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who's on assignment today.
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I'm so happy that we're in
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the office and I'm back on
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air doing live shows all week.
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I know.
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I think I sent you a text like,
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look at the camera while
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you were doing click
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because I was not with you.
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And they went unanswered.
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It was not unanswered, Dr. Producer.
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I acknowledged it on air.
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Did you?
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I did, yeah.
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We had a whole conversation about it.
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I'm sorry that you're just
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flaming me and then leaving
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right away without even-
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I myself was at another conference.
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And so I got the alert.
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I'm looking.
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I'm like, I can't do two things at once,
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but I can send a text and go run away.
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Totally.
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Well, you know what?
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You mentioned it.
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We are in conference season.
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Last week,
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we were at our friend Craig
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Sullivan's California
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Lodging Investment Conference.
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What a great event that was.
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I encourage all of you to
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catch all of the coverage
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that we did the week before.
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Before that,
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I was at Remington Hospitality's event.
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The week before that or two
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weeks before that,
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I was at First Hospitality's event.
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It is conference season, I will tell you.
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And remember how great Click was.
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And you know I love that event.
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I'm also super stoked for next week.
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You know, what's going on next week?
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Anything?
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I don't know.
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It's something that I don't
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have the excited pleasure to go,
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so I'm going to be super jealous today,
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but let's go on a hunt.
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I'm excited because not only
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do I get to have Gus's
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Fried Chicken in downtown Atlanta,
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but more importantly,
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I get to go to the Hotel
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Investment Conference,
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and I got with us both
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Teague and Lee Hunter,
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masterminds behind the event.
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Hey, Teague.
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Lee, how are you guys doing?
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Hey, Glenn.
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Hi.
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Hey, Glenn.
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Doing great.
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How about you?
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Hi, Suzanne.
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You look great.
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Oh, thank you.
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I appreciate it.
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Tell Anthony we don't need
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Anthony anymore.
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Yeah.
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We sure don't.
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Gentlemen, I'm so excited.
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Next week,
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35th annual Hunter Hotel
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Investment Conference.
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And I was joking with you
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before we went on air.
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I think up to at least 20 of them,
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maybe more than that.
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It's kind of crazy.
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It's kind of crazy that this is 35 years.
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That doesn't count.
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That just ages all of us.
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Yeah,
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I had a lot less gray hair the first
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ones I went to.
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But what's been amazing
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about that event is I really saw it.
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It started out as kind of a niche,
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southeastern kind of an event.
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And then over my years,
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I noticed it started to
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spread out and out.
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And while it's still not a
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national national event,
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It really is, at this point,
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a national hotel conference
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and one of the major ones
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that I like to attend every single year.
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So before I let you speak,
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let me just say I'm looking
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forward to being there next week.
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Join us there.
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Please, it's next Tuesday, Wednesday,
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and Thursday of next week,
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starting on the 18th.
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Monday the 18th is registration,
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all that kind of stuff.
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Check in Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
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Guys, how's it shaping up?
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Lee,
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you looking forward to this year's event?
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What's the overall synopsis
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of what's going on there?
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Yeah, Glenn,
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we're really looking forward
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to the event this year.
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The team has done a great
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job of putting together an
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array of speakers.
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We got a lot of new faces this year.
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I think we've got over 50%.
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from a diversity perspective.
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So that's really good.
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But our theme is no, no limits,
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which is a call to action,
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get everybody excited moving forward.
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So we're really looking forward to it.
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We're pacing well ahead of
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where we were last year at
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this point in time.
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And last year we had over
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2000 people in attendance.
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So we're certainly expecting
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to surpass that number this year.
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Registration does close on Thursday.
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And once that closes Thursday,
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everything moves to on-site registration.
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So pricing will change.
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You can still register for
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the conference after Thursday,
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but Thursday is the last
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opportunity you'll have to
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do that online.
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It's amazing to me how many
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people still show up day of conference.
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I mean,
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I've had my flight booked for like
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three months already, you know?
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You know, Glenn,
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that's sort of a number
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that we track and we'll be, you know,
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plus or minus 100 people.
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If it holds true, you know, year over year,
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we're always plus or minus
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100 people that actually
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register for the conference
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on site when they arrive either, you know,
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Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.
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God bless people who could
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handle that kind of
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flexibility in their lifestyle.
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Teague, you know, it's one week out.
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This is when everybody's
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kind of getting crazy.
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So what are you looking
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forward to most about
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getting everybody together
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for our pre-spring hospitality checkup?
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I mean,
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it's chaos around the office right now.
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I'm looking forward to that being over.
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But come on, you know,
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I'm a people person.
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I love getting these
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conversations with everybody together.
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Let's get together, see each other,
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give a bunch of hugs to a
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friend you haven't seen in a while.
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And I don't know, talk about business,
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I guess.
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Try and get some deals done.
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Yeah, you know,
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it's funny you say try to
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talk about business because
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one of the things that I
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like about this event is
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it's more casual and laid back.
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And I don't mean to imply
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it's not serious.
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What I mean is that the
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atmosphere is one of such
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that it's easy to approach people.
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It's great to have some
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conversations with people
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and that it's all
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self-contained within the
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Atlanta Marriott marquee is
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a great way to keep the group together.
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Suzanne,
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I feel like we're ignoring you over here.
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No, that's a great property.
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I've had the pleasure of staying there,
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just not going to the conference.
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And so I think when events
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are able to be self-contained that way,
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it does lead to better
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relationship building and networking.
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And for me,
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that's always one of the best
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parts of going to conferences.
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So it's great to hear that
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that's the type of environment.
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So for those last 100 people
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that haven't registered,
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make it happen and get in on that.
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Yeah, for sure.
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And always,
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besides the fact of people
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doing deals in the hallway and all that,
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you've got a great lineup as always.
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Man, big coups.
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You got Tony Capuano,
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the big chief from Marriott,
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coming in to do a fireside chat,
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as well as, of course,
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Atlanta-based Ed Bastian,
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CEO of Delta Airlines.
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I feel like Ed and I are
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really great friends
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because I spend so much
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time with him and his team.
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Sorry,
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I don't know why my soundboard just
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did that.
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Yeah, Teague,
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I'm almost at 1.3 million with Delta now.
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And I've been like, you know,
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watching it climb and I'm
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getting very excited.
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And my biggest regret is not
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starting flying with them until 2007,
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you know, but what are you going to do?
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So Teague,
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We'll get you a autograph from Ed Bastian.
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Thank you.
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I would love that.
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It'll go right next to the
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one that I got with Goober
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from the Andy Griffith show.
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I actually met him when a
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major hotel brand tried to
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do these small little 50-room hotels,
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and he was the celebrity
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person who did the opening event there.
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So I'm excited about Teague, though.
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Tell us a little bit about
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what else people could
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expect at the event.
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I mean, again,
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Fireside Jam at Bastion and
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Tony Capuano owes a mentalist,
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which is going to be exciting.
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That'll keep everybody on their toes.
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But listen,
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we've always been known for the
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conference where deals get done.
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That's not a secret.
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All the brand guys say it.
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All the hotel owners say it.
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So we're going to see what
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deals we can get done at the conference.
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I'm feeling it.
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I think it's going to be very active.
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That's awesome.
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What about you, Lee?
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Yeah, no,
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I would second what Teague just said.
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All our brand guys will tell
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you they get more deals
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done here at Hunter than
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they do at Alice NYU Lodging,
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and they'll tell you that.
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And this year, like I alluded to earlier,
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You know,
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we've sort of restructured the
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programming to allow for
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more networking
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opportunities and more time
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for for people to get deals done.
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So and have meetings and and we'll see.
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Like I said,
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we anticipated being very
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active conference, you know,
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not only in the sessions,
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but also outside the
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sessions in the hallways.
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Yeah.
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And thank you for putting
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out all of the snacks
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throughout the day outside the sessions.
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It makes it a lot easier to
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get things done.
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It looks like you're ready
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to say something.
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Yeah, I was just thinking,
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and we're giving our award this year.
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We're giving it to Bob Hunter.
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I was just going to lead into it.
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It's so great.
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So let me set that up so you
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guys don't have to seem so self-serving.
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So I'm really excited because this year,
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everybody's going to be
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able to really honor Bob Hunter.
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He's the founder, of course,
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of Hunter Hotel Advisors
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and of the conference,
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the Hunter Hotel Investment Conference.
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And
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He's always been an
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incredible human being.
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And I remember getting the
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chance to do podcasting
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with him back when I first
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started with it.
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I'm going back like a dozen years now.
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And although he didn't
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really know what to make of it,
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he totally got into it and enjoyed it.
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And ever since then,
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I felt like I really
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connected with him in a
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kind of deeper way.
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And I saw why he was able to
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build such a successful business.
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So congratulations on
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finally having the right opportunity to,
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you know,
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to celebrate such an
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incredible man who might
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just happen to be your dad as well.
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We're a little biased.
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Yeah.
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Was it weird picking him to do it?
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I'll let Lee tell you,
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but it wasn't our idea.
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And he said no for years.
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They finally twisted his arm
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enough that he said yes.
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And I'm ecstatic because
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he's unbelievable.
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He's our father.
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I'm biased.
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But he did this.
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He put this thing together.
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This is a heck of an event.
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He worked his tail off for a lot of years,
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sacrificing and putting this out there.
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So it's going to be great.
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It's going to be a tearjerker,
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I have a feeling.
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But it's going to be great.
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I bet.
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It's a good thing I'm
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working with a new company
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that does tissues.
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So I'm going to bring some
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of those with me.
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Lee?
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Yeah, no.
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As Teague alluded to,
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this wasn't a Lee and
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Teague Hunter decision.
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On our advisory board,
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we have a subcommittee for
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the conference award.
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And Teague and I are not a
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part of that subcommittee.
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So this was...
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an award.
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The committee chose Bob,
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as Teague alluded to.
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They've wanted to choose Bob
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for the last several years now,
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and Bob has,
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I don't want to say declined the award,
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but for Bob, this is not about him,
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right?
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He didn't start this
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conference to be about him.
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He started it to be about
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the industry and for the industry.
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And so it's sort of the same
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reaction with the award.
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But this year, the committee members were,
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dare I say,
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adamant with it being the 35th
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year that he accepted.
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And we had committee members
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fly into Atlanta
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to meet with Bob and more or
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less force him to accept the award.
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Good.
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We're proud.
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I love that you folks didn't
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want to make it happen
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because it's such a great
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testament to everything
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that he's achieved that the
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folks that are on your
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advisory board demanded that it happen.
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So I can't wait to see him
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and congratulate him in person.
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Also, shameless plug for me.
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I will be hosting a panel at
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1115 next Wednesday on the
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brands and owners coming together.
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I'm really excited on that
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particular panel because
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I've got Shruti Gandhi
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Buckley with Hilton, Matt Marquis,
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CEO of Pacifica Hotels, Dupree Scovel,
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Jim Tierney, Todd Turner.
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Dang, man.
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Great panel, guys.
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That's probably true, Glenn.
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I know.
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And they're all people that
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are right up my alley, too.
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So that's going to be out of control.
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The other cool thing that
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I'm participating in is the table.
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I love this idea.
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You started it last year.
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Why don't you guys share a
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little bit about what that
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is and why it's so
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important to the future of hospitality?
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Yeah, the table has grown.
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You know,
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it started with the Castell
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Project a few years ago and
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has grown and turned into
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what we're now calling the table.
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And it's the reason for the table is, hey,
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it's come have a seat at
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the table and learn and
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grow your careers.
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Again,
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it grew out of the Castell Project
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with Peggy Berg.
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And as now, you know,
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we'll have 25 roundtables
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with moderators such as yourself,
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you know,
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attending and moderating these panels.
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And again, it's a roundtable discussion on,
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you know,
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how to grow your career and what
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you do in your career and
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just a discussion amongst, you know,
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industry peers.
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Suzanne, let me get you back in here.
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Yeah,
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so I would say great opportunity to
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hear that that's happening
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and being a spinoff.
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I love seeing how Peggy's
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program with Castell
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Project has really started
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to infiltrate our entire
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industry and that you all
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are leveraging those
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components from a career standpoint.
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Myself being in the field of
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higher education and really
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trying to get students and
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new entrants into our
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industry excited about what we have.
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that is an amazing way to
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continue to leverage and
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tap into all the knowledge
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of folks that are right there.
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So that's great.
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Now,
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what I want to hear about in knowing
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that now this is your 35th conference,
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can you take us with a
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little step backwards to
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get to where you are now?
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What are some of the things
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that you've changed or infiltrated or,
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you know,
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gotten excited about the past,
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the coming together with
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where you're at now.
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Oh, you know,
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I think our growth is the exciting thing.
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You know, we always, you know,
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Bob from day one wanted
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this to conference to be owner focused,
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focused on the owner,
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the investor of the asset.
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And his mindset was if we have the owner,
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the investor in attendance,
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then everyone else who
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wants to do business with that owner,
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that investor will be in attendance also.
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And so as we we keep that
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owner focus in mind with everything we do,
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with panels that we have,
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with speakers that we have.
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It's, hey, is this something an owner,
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investor in the asset wants
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to hear about?
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Is this a person, the owner,
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the investor in the asset
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wants to hear about?
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And so we keep that person in focus.
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And if we keep that person in focus, again,
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brands will show up,
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attorneys will show up,
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lenders will show up,
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architects will show up,
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management companies will show up.
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And I think we've done a
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very good job of doing that
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over the years and just
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being focused and
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maintaining the focus on
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the owner of the asset.
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I think I'll chime in Suzanne.
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I also think the,
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and I mean this sincerely,
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the diversity of the
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speakers this year is very impressive.
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And what I'm really behind the scenes,
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the team was really focused
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on getting fresh new faces up there.
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Cause you know, we've been talking,
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we all know the same people
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and in getting fresh new faces,
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it just organically turned
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out that we're over 50%
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diverse on our panels.
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And I think that's a sign of our industry.
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And that's, it's not just us.
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It's a sign of the industry
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coming about and we should
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all be proud of that.
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Yeah, we should be.
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And it must be difficult for
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you folks because you want
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to present the people with
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the best titles in the industry,
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but you also want to be
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very representative of what
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the hospitality industry is of today.
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So I...
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I've said this before publicly.
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I can't wait till we get to
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a time where we don't have
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to talk about the diversity
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in panels and stuff and
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people on them anymore
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because it's just a given fact.
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But until then,
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thank you for continuing to
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try to push forward new
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faces within our industry
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so everyone gets a seat.
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at the table.
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Well, Glenn,
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I can tell you with certainty
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it is changing.
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Thank goodness.
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Because when you look at the panels,
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we do have a lot.
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You're exactly right.
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We need titles and sponsors
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want titles and things of that nature.
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It's changing.
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Those titles, those positions that we need,
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you know, on the stage and speaking,
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you know, they're becoming more diverse.
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So it's not as hard as you might think.
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And Suzanne, with respect to universities,
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you know,
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we have representatives and
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faculty and students from
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12 different universities
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attending this year.
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So we do have an academic rate,
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if you will,
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for professors and students to attend.
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And there's representation
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from 12 different
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universities at the conference this year.
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So we're bringing along the
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next generation.
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That's what it's going to be
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about because if we don't
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all work that way,
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we're not going to have
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those titles for those
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other folks that are coming up.
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So it's great to hear.
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Yeah,
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it's great to see all the new people
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coming into the business.
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I don't know what happened
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because we're talking about the table,
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but I remember being so
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excited and telling my
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parents that I think I was
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finally at the adults table
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in the hospitality business
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when I got promoted from
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the kids table over there.
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And now all of a sudden I've
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turned into Grandpa Glenn.
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I don't know what
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the heck happened there.
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I remember when all of us were like,
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you know, young, but whatever.
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Be careful what you wish for, Glenn.
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Dude, seriously,
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my greatest fear is to get
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a lifetime achievement
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award at this point.
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Well, for me,
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it would be a lifetime of unachievement,
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but that would be,
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that's a different story.
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You know,
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we've all been doing this a long time,
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Glenn.
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It's scary when I look out in the office,
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I'm the oldest person here.
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Right.
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It's so strange.
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Anyway, but you know,
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you got an owner's focused conference.
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So I thought let's spend a
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few minutes talking about
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what's going on with
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ownership and the ownership mindset.
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And as I mentioned in,
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in before I'm bringing you guys on,
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I've been on the road a lot this year.
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And one of the things that I
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keep hearing is that owners
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want to keep moving forward and
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And it looks like,
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according to like Bruce
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Ford Development Pipeline,
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things are going to start picking up.
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I'm hearing from title
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companies that things are
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really picking up right now.
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Teague,
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what's your prognostication on the
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deal market?
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Put on your Hunter Hotel
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Advisors cap now for a second.
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How do you see 2024 playing out?
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Yeah.
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Lee, what's our conference theme?
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No, no limits.
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I mean,
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that was our positive spin on let's go,
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everybody.
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Let's no, no limits.
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We're as busy as we back.
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Tell you on the transaction side,
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in the brokerage side,
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we are as busy as we have ever been.
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Now, it's hard.
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Everybody knows that it is
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hard out there to get deals done today.
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Debt is very expensive,
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but we are very busy.
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It's complicated everywhere
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from operations to getting
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a transaction done.
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But there is no lack of
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options out there today.
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We probably have more net
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sellers today than we've
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had in a long time.
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Wow.
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So let me ask you this, Lee.
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I got to ask this question.
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I'm required to buy a contract.
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Is money still sitting on the sidelines?
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And what's the deal with that?
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There's definitely a lot of
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equity in the market today
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looking for opportunity.
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Obviously,
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with the increase in interest
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rates over the last year,
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that bid-ask spread has widened.
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I would say, and Teague,
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you can verify this as well.
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I would say that bid-ask
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spread is narrowing.
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There's a desire to get
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transactions done on both
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sides of the equation today.
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So I think that bid ask
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spread is beginning to narrow,
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which will lead to a lot
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more transactions happening
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in 24 than happened in 25.
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I think we're at the trough
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of pricing is what I think.
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I don't know how long we'll be down here,
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but we're definitely off
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20-ish percent in value.
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But I think we are where we are.
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Barring something major happening,
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I think we are where we are.
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Interest rates will go down
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into the second half of the year.
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It will be longer than people want.
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They all want it now,
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but maybe fourth quarter.
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But interest rates will go down.
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Values will come back.
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But it's happening.
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Right.
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Make your decision.
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Make your move right now.
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Right.
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It looked like the Fed was
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more bullish on dropping
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interest rates originally
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had they indicated towards
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the top of the year that
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had changed as the economy
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has not cooled off to a
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level where they feel that
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they could do that.
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But you're right.
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I do still believe there
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will be some interest level relief.
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And based on that.
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I'd be curious,
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are people waiting to get
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deals done for that?
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Is it even worth it?
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And how does a drop in
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interest rates later this year,
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do you think,
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will change the deal-making environment?
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Yeah, there's a yin and yang to all of it,
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right?
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I mean, yes,
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we want interest rates lowered.
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But one of the reasons why
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there are so many assets on
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the market at the moment is
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because you might normally refinance.
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And those people who would
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refinance are not refinance.
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They're not able to.
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So they're just selling the asset.
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So great.
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That's opportunity.
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So if you're a long term holder,
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if you've got capital,
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which there is still a ton
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of capital out there in the market,
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you've got capital,
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you should be gobbling up
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everything you can.
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The interest rates lowering is remember,
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you lower interest rates
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when the market doesn't do well.
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Right.
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The market's still too strong.
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How do you lower interest
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rates when the stock market
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is at all time high?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So something's got to happen
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in the macro economy,
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which will be negative
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before they raise rates to
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juice the economy.
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Makes sense.
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Lee, you want to comment?
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Yeah, no.
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Like Dick alluded to,
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I think there will be
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interest rates dropped this year,
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if for no other reason,
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it's an election year, right?
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And so I do think it'll be
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closer toward the fourth quarter,
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not the second,
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third that everybody was
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sort of hoping for at the
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beginning of this year,
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given the current economic situation.
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But I do think there will be
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a drop in interest rates.
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Obviously, when interest rates, you know,
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it's a function of, you know,
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the cap rate's a function
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of an interest rate, right?
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It's a math equation.
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You know, interest rates, you know, go up,
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cap rates go up, values go down.
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So when interest rates go down,
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cap rates will go down,
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values will go back up, right?
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It's a math equation.
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So I do think you'll start
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seeing transactions.
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Again,
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that bid-ask spread will narrow and
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the transaction phase will pick up.
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Suzanne?
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I was going to say, it's economics 101.
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Don't we teach that?
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Yeah, that's for sure.
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So, Lee,
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I got to ask you this question as well.
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And I've been asking a lot
00:23:51.795 --> 00:23:53.416
of folks this question
00:23:53.436 --> 00:23:55.118
because it really surprises me.
00:23:55.159 --> 00:23:56.180
People keep saying that
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:57.020
deals can't get done
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because of high interest rates.
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But guys our age remember
00:24:00.325 --> 00:24:01.326
when interest rates were
00:24:01.365 --> 00:24:03.147
higher before the Great Recession.
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My theory is, and again,
00:24:05.470 --> 00:24:06.609
I'm just as an outsider,
00:24:07.029 --> 00:24:08.010
we trained a whole
00:24:08.050 --> 00:24:09.771
generation of hoteliers and
00:24:09.811 --> 00:24:11.192
investors to expect below
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natural interest rates.
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Does this play a factor into
00:24:16.174 --> 00:24:17.494
how deals are getting done?
00:24:17.894 --> 00:24:19.096
Because we've retrained
00:24:19.715 --> 00:24:20.656
people to think of what
00:24:20.717 --> 00:24:22.297
interest rates should be as
00:24:22.356 --> 00:24:23.458
opposed to what we thought
00:24:23.498 --> 00:24:26.398
that they should be before 2008,
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if I'm making any sense there.
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Yeah.
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:29.080
No, I mean,
00:24:29.260 --> 00:24:31.643
I saw a stat a couple of weeks ago,
00:24:32.103 --> 00:24:35.605
the average for the last 50 years.
00:24:37.207 --> 00:24:38.667
Now, this was residential mortgages.
00:24:38.909 --> 00:24:39.548
Right.
00:24:39.608 --> 00:24:40.890
The average residential
00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:42.531
mortgage rate for the last
00:24:42.531 --> 00:24:44.313
50 years is like seven and
00:24:44.333 --> 00:24:45.013
a quarter percent.
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You know, it's at it's at six and a half,
00:24:49.636 --> 00:24:50.877
six and a quarter now.
00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:53.220
And everybody's saying, wow, that's high.
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:53.901
Wow, that's high.
00:24:53.941 --> 00:24:54.101
Right.
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It's below the 50 year average.
00:24:58.098 --> 00:24:59.540
So I think you're right, Glenn.
00:24:59.800 --> 00:25:02.243
Everybody's been used to, you know,
00:25:02.284 --> 00:25:05.087
that three, four or 5%, you know,
00:25:05.147 --> 00:25:05.667
on the debt.
00:25:06.548 --> 00:25:07.790
Now they're gonna have to, you know,
00:25:09.032 --> 00:25:10.814
going to the mean, if you will.
00:25:11.473 --> 00:25:12.335
And everybody's going to
00:25:12.355 --> 00:25:13.375
have to get used to that.
00:25:13.736 --> 00:25:14.175
And hey,
00:25:14.215 --> 00:25:15.916
we're just you got to do your
00:25:15.957 --> 00:25:16.416
underwriting.
00:25:16.477 --> 00:25:16.717
Yes,
00:25:16.777 --> 00:25:19.439
it'll affect value because borrowing
00:25:19.459 --> 00:25:20.179
costs are higher.
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.361
So it'll affect value in the marketplace.
00:25:24.041 --> 00:25:26.482
But, you know, on the long run,
00:25:26.603 --> 00:25:27.644
historical average,
00:25:28.104 --> 00:25:29.644
we're still in a good position.
00:25:30.325 --> 00:25:33.166
What was the mortgage on your first house?
00:25:34.823 --> 00:25:38.546
Yeah, well, remember, I was a journalist,
00:25:38.566 --> 00:25:40.907
so I couldn't buy anything
00:25:40.928 --> 00:25:42.409
until I was like 40.
00:25:42.409 --> 00:25:44.971
Yeah, it was higher.
00:25:45.451 --> 00:25:47.212
But when I got this house 10 years ago,
00:25:47.272 --> 00:25:49.694
I started out at like 4.7, 4.8,
00:25:49.694 --> 00:25:51.276
but then I refinanced
00:25:52.037 --> 00:25:53.218
during the trouble we might
00:25:53.258 --> 00:25:57.540
have had back in like 21 or so at 2.6.
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And to highlight what you
00:25:59.103 --> 00:26:00.063
were saying about hoteliers,
00:26:00.443 --> 00:26:01.724
even if I wanted to move,
00:26:02.285 --> 00:26:03.686
I'm not going anywhere.
00:26:03.707 --> 00:26:06.369
It would be stupid for me to
00:26:06.770 --> 00:26:09.493
trade what I'm doing right now.
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I also knocked off a number
00:26:10.634 --> 00:26:12.537
of years from my mortgage.
00:26:12.577 --> 00:26:13.479
So that was exciting.
00:26:13.499 --> 00:26:15.661
A lot of that going on.
00:26:16.362 --> 00:26:18.003
Yeah, for sure.
00:26:18.785 --> 00:26:19.085
Suzanne,
00:26:19.105 --> 00:26:20.446
you got any more questions for our
00:26:20.487 --> 00:26:21.008
friends over there?
00:26:22.996 --> 00:26:25.018
I want to know what event
00:26:25.077 --> 00:26:26.720
are you most excited about
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:27.601
for the conference?
00:26:27.961 --> 00:26:29.221
Like which panel?
00:26:29.321 --> 00:26:30.682
And I know that's like, you know,
00:26:30.722 --> 00:26:31.964
your favorite child,
00:26:32.065 --> 00:26:33.566
but what is going to jazz
00:26:33.586 --> 00:26:34.207
you up the most?
00:26:34.586 --> 00:26:36.209
And are you having the puppies come back?
00:26:36.229 --> 00:26:38.250
Yes.
00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:38.471
Right.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
00:26:45.068 --> 00:26:47.432
I guess I can't say my own panel, can I?
00:26:48.031 --> 00:26:48.633
Yes, you can.
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Go for it.
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I'm biased, but I'm doing two.
00:26:52.917 --> 00:26:55.019
I'm doing a broker panel at 10 a.m.
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:56.682
on Tuesday to kick the conference off,
00:26:57.163 --> 00:26:57.863
and then I think another
00:26:57.903 --> 00:26:58.904
one at 10 in the afternoon.
00:27:00.385 --> 00:27:03.549
Sorry, 4 in the afternoon on Tuesday,
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the Main Street panel.
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So the Washington panel is
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always very good.
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Shai Brookfield will be here.
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Mitch Shaw will be there.
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There's a bunch of really
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good personalities that
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will be talking to the conference.
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Awesome.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited too.
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All right.
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I'll do a big plug for you guys.
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Hunterconference.com.
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Hunterconference.com.
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Love to see you all there next week.
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I know I'll be hosting the table event.
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I got that great brands
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hotel owners panel.
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I'm going to be sitting in
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on the Anthony Capuano,
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CEO of Marriott panel.
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I'm going to be stalking Ed Bastian,
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begging him.
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for an autograph and
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unlimited Sky Lounge entry
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for the rest of my life.
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So look out for that.
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And I'll be going to
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Teague's panels as well.
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And, of course,
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you could find me nibbling
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on some pretzels out in the
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lobby because you guys had
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those nice soft pretzels.
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I mean, we've got to get Suzanne a badge.
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We've got to figure out how
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to get her to a conference.
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Here are some FIU students, Suzanne.
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Yeah.
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Let's plan that for 2025.
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Guys, anything else you need to say?
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Any more plugs that you need
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to get out before we let
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you gentlemen go today?
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I just look forward to
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seeing everybody next week
00:28:17.770 --> 00:28:18.351
here in Atlanta.
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Awesome.
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Big thanks to the Honor team
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for all their work.
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They're crushing it right now.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Well,
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I can't wait to see what you guys
00:28:27.550 --> 00:28:28.171
have in store.
00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:30.452
One of my favorite conferences of the year,
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Lee Hunter, Teague Hunter.
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Thanks so much.
00:28:33.474 --> 00:28:34.455
Can't wait to see you next week.
00:28:34.476 --> 00:28:36.196
And of course, honor your father,
00:28:36.577 --> 00:28:37.959
incredible Bob Hunter.
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See you guys later.
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:40.601
I appreciate that.
00:28:41.020 --> 00:28:42.221
Suzanne, what's your big takeaway?
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It was definitely
00:28:45.791 --> 00:28:46.813
interesting to hear that
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deals are still happening,
00:28:48.053 --> 00:28:49.212
that it's just different.
00:28:49.813 --> 00:28:51.773
And I really appreciate the
00:28:51.814 --> 00:28:52.773
fact that a conference
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builds in that opportunity
00:28:55.295 --> 00:28:57.214
for relationship building, networking,
00:28:57.275 --> 00:28:58.895
and truly making deals happen,
00:28:59.476 --> 00:29:00.715
especially living up to the
00:29:00.756 --> 00:29:02.056
spirit that was started 35
00:29:02.056 --> 00:29:03.396
years ago by their dad.
00:29:03.457 --> 00:29:04.936
So that's pretty exciting.
00:29:05.516 --> 00:29:05.996
I love that.
00:29:06.016 --> 00:29:06.817
And I want to make sure that
00:29:06.876 --> 00:29:08.416
you guys come and say hello to me.
00:29:08.557 --> 00:29:09.798
I will be recording a lot of
00:29:09.877 --> 00:29:11.178
great content next week.
00:29:11.218 --> 00:29:12.519
And while we won't have live shows,
00:29:12.558 --> 00:29:13.419
that's because I want to
00:29:13.439 --> 00:29:15.680
talk to as many people as possible.
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So be sure to follow us, you know,
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And if you want to take a look at us,
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everybody we'll see you
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show and don't forget
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you've got one life so
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blaze on and follow your
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